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sequoa i want to thank you supervisor david chiu for this complex issue when i first heard of air b and b i couldn't fathom the regulations of the new legislation it was first kind of a great way to visit other cities and who wants to make additional revenue in the city that is expensive i'm dissolving into the multiple layers i definitely support recollecting this activity it is something that has been happening to a great step up to the plate in san francisco and will certainly continue on we should grapple it as a city and make sure it's something that works for our neighborhoods and landowners as well sequoa kind of reviewing the planning commission and
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hearing from the multiple stakeholders i've identified 12 to 13 issuance that i think have questions on or have not come to a position on the way i feel sequoa i'll say one i'm disappointed it the short term vacation rental sites have not collected tax this is not something that needs to be implemented before the legislation today they don't need to wait for the board of supervisors to pass the legislation they should do it now i know that i hope that the host sites start committing to doing that sequoa a number of different things i believe in a property owner i want to hear about a thirty day notification
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how it works for other types of predicaments the percentage i guess of responses that we get is this the right way to invite landlord-tenant and interested in the hosted vs. non-hosted 90 days is a good implementation on the summer if you're a student a vacation a sabato california if you like to host you can do is 7 nights once a month and get the
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the amount that the code enforcement will be able to handle that we should have hotel tax i'm not sure you have to go to the voters that's a question
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for the city attorney whether we can set aside tax for the city improvement john gibner, deputy city attorney is saying no, but we have to fund and have a discussion on how we will be able to fined this the legislation only works if we enforce the policy we need to know where the dollars are coming from i want to figure out that in advance i want to make sure the planning department can have a robust team like the quadrants, please plus someone to oversee the budget sequoa the final issue i'll bring up there's a number of other issues but the concept is standing sequoa in terms of who can
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complain ii not to know who they would go to and who can file the complaint and that kind of questions the beginning of some of the questions i have i want to say i think we've made headway in the legislation before us a couple months ago i couldn't see how to regulate this but has negative consequences the top one being people if the unit that take the rooms off the market with the housing is expensive in california i've met residents
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that have been ellis act evicted and they rented out their units and that is the type of activity we need to regulate and have the funding to enforce it a a regulation the city can enforce thank you. >> thank you supervisor kim sequoa supervisor cohen. >> thank you very much good afternoon, everyone this is a very important policy discussion sequoa i have a set of concerns i'm going to briefly touch on they were outlined from the previous speaker i have questions about the dbi and the code issue as a department they've had i've done a lot of work with them over the enforcement and i do question the capacity that they my potentially have on the enforcement arm of the
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legislation should this legislation be housed in this particular department i'd like to see exactly our thinking and i don't have a background in insurance so i will be interested in our ideas what is an acceptable insurance level i've done my due diligence and i want to see exactly as suggested the insurance people should be carrying another concern is data collection how much is too much on the age of online life as well as transparency one thing i'm sensitive to say representing the southeast neighborhood is people olsen lee presence how much of their personal data if they're a host
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or guest would be shared in a public domain like a regulatory address sequoa the registration fee how do we settle on 75 why not 50 i think the proposal is 75 i'm curious to know where and how this number was determined and d will it be enough to satisfy the planning that the full time positions their regulating with the legislation sequoa i know one thing is interesting also i want to point out we're having a discussion amongst during a time when there is a housing crisis and i want to make sure we said there are both parties effected by this piece of legislation with the ellis act and evicted and people
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that are struggling to stay in their homes and you're going this as a way to make extra cash people from 9 across the city tyler compelling reasons on both sides one thing is universal there's a need for a piece of legislation so thank you david chiu for bringing this to us. >> thank you very much president chiu. >> one thing i'll suggest colleagues you've raised a number of issues we have the director of planning i can you and your staff have pit in a lot of work and i understand that there are representatives from air b and b i've heard from colleagues a they might very specific questions around insurance and taxation why that hadn't been collected i tlbls a
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representative from air b and b and other platforms but irrational questions we may do that or up to the committee for public comment. >> i'll suggest we hear from planning and if air b and b and other planners i'd like to hear from them. >> director ram. >> thank you, john ram from the planning department just to you know scott sanchez the zoning administrator and over the enforcement and christen the manager of the code enforcement program and audrey has done a lot of research in what other cities have done i want to thank president chiu and for working closely with the department and commission is this is a
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complicated issue sequoa i think there's basic agreement the planning commission meeting was held on august 7th this is primarily to set a path for making this activity legal in a reasonable way for people to share their homes and aiding the issue of the not having their housing taken off the housing u housing authority this balance is the right thing to do sequoa the commission believes it is time to update the law to allow for accomodation sequoa i also think that our best guess based on the research there are about 5 thousand units in the city that are being advertise is and it's difficult to know how many of those are unit not lived in on a if not for the truth of the matter asserted basis the
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primary complaints 2, 3, 4 from the neighbors are from the units not a if not for the truth of the matter asserted home and that's what we respond to unit off the market that appear to be off the market as a full-time residence i want to thank the supervisor and incorporating the recommendations you've gone over the hosted posted registration number requiring the units can, only offered by the permanent resident and having a registry i'll talk about the private e privacy issue there's miss consumptions and the issue of taxation and the insurance sequoa the issue of single-family units we recommended it be the planning department since it is a land
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use issue i totally thank the supervisors for recognizing the demands on our time and the resource issues i'm happy to talk about that as well sequoa i'll say there are 3 other issues worthy of your discussion one is on how we address the issue of the number of days we clearly agree that the most important way to talk about a short term unit held off the market assail addressing the number of days rented sequoa the planning commission recommended that the host actually reports this on an annual basis after the fact basis the host says here the number of days we'll rent and the second thing is the dedicated enforcement staff a higher 2350e would be
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appropriate but we concur there's a disincentive if it becomes too high to register another is the fine rather than having it come from the general fund for consideration to move forward sequoa on the issue of hosted vs. non-hosted the commission recommended the limits apply to both we think first of all, it makes it easier for us to enforce but we royals it was related to the issue of privacy because essentially we'll be trying to find out how many days someone splept slept in their home so that's a concern i don't want to get into and it makes it easier to enforce the rules sequoa i just want to indoctrinate to the issue of privacy and address the miss semgsz we're asking it not
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be attached to the unit not divulge who is hosting or asking for people to open up about their personal business only nobody would know about the information but only after the fact when their hosting someone in the unit so we're not getting into people's personal lives how they take vacationed and again, it's the unit that's important not who owns it not any of that sequoa finally, i want to mention this has comp come up a couple of times perhaps a one year reporting requirement back to the board and commission how the fees are working and how the enforcement is working we'll
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report back in a year or so to see how it's working and report on the enforcement issue sequoa i'll have to leave in about a half an hour again we're here some of the staff for the duration of the meeting. >> colleagues any questions for the planning department. >> i want to ask the planning department one comment and one question first of all, a one year reporting condition i support that we will do everything we go, but perhaps as it gets into enforcement you may need to figure out whether there's a detail that doesn't work may try to figure out language so you have a -
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>> my recommendation to keep is below a hundred dollars a year we don't want to create a disincentive by that's not if you have enough for full enforcement the fee is not enough so we'll want to talk about the possibility of having fines and dedicating those to the enforcement and we believe that's legally possible but not a general funding process. >> i'm happy to support that and we'll have the conversation 0 through the course of this committee meeting. >> thank you director ram. >> supervisor kim. >> i have a quick question in terms of the question around did costs i know that it's hard to estimate what the full cost of enforcement is there an initial
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budget of what the department is proposed to go out so we'll be except to deal with the initial flood of registration and complaints. >> it again is hard to know it's depends on the final composition but it will take two to three people to start a as much as as three to $400,000 for the staff positions. >> and then the second question i know that dbi and planning have a joint hearing on october 2nd; is that correct. >> that's correct. >> and is this on the agenda for the hearing for that hearing. >> this legislation flou no, but they will want to talk about the enforcement. >> that's something i mean i know i articulated this easily
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but i want a response to dbi they best building what code they're going to be endorsing the violations thank you. >> thank you. >> okay. thank you supervisor kim sequoa commissioner joh. co is a hearing on october 2nd but this is not being heard. >> this enforcement issue is part of what the commissioned want to discuss and do you think it's important to hear the end result of this october 2nd meeting do i think it will factor any relevance into
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today's information. >> there's a informational hearing no action required but they wanted an opportunity to discuss the enforcement action and how each department is responsible just to clarify the legislation by supervisor chiu it makes the department responsible for the enforcement. >> colleagues questions or comments that the planning department or in general. okay. seeing none at this point excuse me we'll move to public comment when air b and b speaks people can ask questions of any speaker and that will be the best way to handle it. so i'm going to begin by calling public comment cards
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it's two minutes when you have 30 seconds left you'll hear a soft bell and when your two minutes is up you'll hear a louder billion and finish up your comments to move along. i want to note that we have a board rile where we request that people in expressing agreement or disagreement or prpd not do it through clearing or booing it is disruptive and can dissuade people from wanting to speak so do you want to approval or disapproval do a
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thumbs up or whatever you don't have to testify in the exactly order your called i'm sorry, i haven't called anyone yet so if you could - thank you. i'd like to ask people to line up on that side of the room the side close i did to the windows i'll begin to call names (calling names) and i apologize in advance for mispronouncing names (calling names)
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sir. >> responsiveness to safety of residents we hear i can't registration register for the code violations it sounds like responsive and not comprehensive so of us went to meeting to the building inspection commission months ago we heard private retains and rental unit were not intishgd on a regularly basis so the home could have up to date wiring or plumbing and yet because there's no violations it could be rermgd and the issue is what about the safety of those in the unit that's been a short time rental or the next door neighbors or the upstairs or the downstairs neighbors if you've got older wiring or plunging
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you're renting anti 3 bedrooms of your house you you've got a problem if they all plug in a hair drying or tv you could have a short circuit and dbi is not considered this it is not before the building inspection they don't know had a code to apply a residential or commercial why can't this be on the joint meeting of october in joint building inspection they don't have a basis to know what code to use and the reminded requirement to register only the code violations you could have up to date wiring and still present safety southerners this is a safety concerns if the
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building has a fire. >> thank you. next speake >> there are. hi, i'm george good afternoon, supervisors i represent the neighborhood groups in san francisco. i lived in the mid turn-on homeowners association when midtown terrace was development in the 1950s the developers recorded in the property records of san francisco a number of covenants and restrictions cc&rs intended to insure the purchase of those lots can have confidence in
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mid-town terrace would maintain it's character as a high quality neighborhood some of the rules were specifically included in the property b f d for the original purchaseers and continue through. we're concerned be of this massive rezoning of our neighborhoods we're currently an rh1 and rh2 home rh1 b and our homes are about to be rezoned as commercial property. this rezoning is being done under the guys of air b and b it is wrong for what's happening in our neighborhood destroying our cc&rs and our homeowners association how can we as neighbors enforce our own
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regulations we believe there is no real enforcement under david chiu's plan and wondering how to enforce our own rules and don't understand how we can figure out who the hosting what in our neighborhood so how can we responsibly handle our own neighborhood problems. thank you very much. >> thank you very much. next speaker. . good afternoon, supervisors i'm henry i'm the president of the san francisco council of the associations, of course, there should be regulations on the short time rentals i want to mention one thing air b and b will bring to the city those folks are the ones that come to our cities and stay for a short time and explore around the city to areas that are outside of
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downtown where there's no traffic right now for super bowl there will generate traffic and help to revitalize those areas that are right now somewhat blighted and in some parts of city for the super bowl it's a good thing but on the other hand, i think we need regulations thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. . >> hi, i'm ashley i live in san francisco for 8 years i rent. a 5 bedroom home i have roommates and i've been hosting a year me and my landlord have a wonderful relationship i'd love for the supreme court to come to my

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